11 years ago, I bought a house with an in-ground swimming pool,
something of a rarity in chilly Berkeley but it was 40 years old.
I don't like cold pools, and decided to put in solar heating
panels. It took some time, but I worked out how to operate the
heating/filter system at a very low energy cost. I wrote a
brain-dump yesterday for someone who just got a house with a
pool, and then decided to put it online, rather than lose the
information.
Safety
Unfortunately, this starts with a difficult topic. Before you
start work on your pool, please do a google search for "pool
evisceration" and read the references. A number of children
have been horribly injured by innocent-looking plumbing.
In current pool construction, evisceration is avoided by having
any pipe with suction on it be connected to more than one drain,
so that suction does not build up on one drain.
Making sure a current pool is as safe as it can be from
evisceration hazards
1. Make sure the skimmer bucket, where the basket that holds
things the skimmer catches goes, has a working cap on top of it.
You might want to screw it down so that curious kids can't
pick it up, the last one I bought came with screws. One of the
bad injuries was from a baby sitting down in the skimmer bucket.
Modern skimmer buckets have a second drain built below them in
the pool wall so that there can not be suction buildup. Make sure
that's not blocked.
2. Make sure the bottom drain has a grate screwed down on to it.
3. If there is an outlet for a pool vaccumm, fit a spring-loaded
cap on to it.
Stores
Leslie's pool supply is the only good local store. Use
web/mail order to get everything else.
Water table
Draining a pool isn't good for it. If the water table is high
as in the winter, it can float the pool right out of the ground.
Sometimes you can get the thing back where it was, but you'll
lose the plumbing, including that hard-to-replace bottom drain
pipe. It can also cause the plaster to start popping off the base
of the pool, which will make it leak. I live in the hills and the
water is only 7 feet down in the middle of summer. I have not
drained my pool since a pebble-tek replastering 7 years ago.
It's easy to keep clean without ever draining it, and having
a diver come from a leak-detection company and do any underwater
repairs you need is less expensive than I would have expected.
Type of panel
There are a number of different kinds of panel that you can put
on your roof. Most these days are plastic of some kind. The
panels I'm using are made of aluminum and copper, and I
can't get any more. The cheapest kind come in a roll of about
20 feet by 4 feet and are just rolled out onto the roof. Between
thermal expansion and wind, they are going to chafe the life out
of your roof shingles. More practical units come in solid
rectangular panels that connect end-to-end. Cover as much of the
sun-facing roof as you can. Since heat is the free part of this
energy equation, you will save the most electricity with more
panels, and a shorter run-time. You will also get a longer season
in which you can heat the pool with more panels. About 3/4 of
your pool surface area is a practical minimum size to be making a
significant difference in the pool temperature. A web search will
find various brands, plan on doing this by mail-order, as
it's hard to find the parts otherwise. My panels can get the
pool up to body temperature for two to three months in the
summer, here in Berkeley's fog-belt, on the shady side of the
hills. Most people will have a longer season. Today the system is
running and water coming out of the panels is about 79 degrees,
probably 10 degrees above air temperature.
Roof mounting
I built a frame for my panels using redwood blocks bolted into
the roof studs and ground-contact-rated 2x4s running between the
blocks. This holds them several inches off of the roof. Some
plastic panels come with stainless steel mounting hardware that
holds them off the roof. Prosolar makes beautiful hardware for
clay tile roofs, foam roofs, etc., but it's pricey. They
actually made my panels, and have either exited that business or
just refuse to ship them anywhere.
Air-relief valve
Panels come with an air-relief and vaccumm breaker valve. This
removes air from the system and keeps it from developing a
syphon. The most important thing it does is drain the panel
reliably for those Northerners who have freezing weather. But it
is a tremendous energy waster for us, because it breaks the
syphon that actually saves us energy in pumping water up to the
roof and back. Block off the air relief valve and you will be
able to use the low setting of a two-speed motor to pump through
the panel. Leave it open and you'll need the high-speed
setting. The air in the system just comes out the pool jets, it
doesn't get stuck anywhere. Use a manual valve to make sure
the panel is drained when you close the system for the winter. If
I lived in a place where frost is less predictable, I'd use
an electric valve for air relief, and have it shut when the motor
is on low speed and open otherwise. You will not close the pump
for the winter, in a really cold winter you will circulate the
water to keep the pool from icing over. Ice is bad for it. Yes,
it really does ice over in the Berkeley hills some years.
Cover
Use a solar pool cover to conserve that heat and keep the
mosquito larvae out. They are made of bubble-wrap with some
ultraviolet-resistance added. UV and chlorine rot them in 2 years
or so. Leslies pool supply has nice cut-to-shape ones with reels.
Controller
The controller turns on the system when it can heat the pool and
turns it off before it starts cooling the pool. It uses two
thermistors, and turns on the system when one thermistor is
hotter than the other, and allows you to set a maximum
temperature. If you live in Arizona, it also allows you to set
the panel to go on at night and cool off the pool. Mine is from
Goldline controls. It comes with instructions that expect you to
run the filter on a timer all day, and then have the controller
just turn the valve to the heating panel on and off. This might
have been a good idea 15 years ago when electricity was cheaper.
To be able to turn the motor on and off with the controller, you
need a controller that puts a thermistor in the panel and one in
the pool.
Motor
A two-speed motor is essential to save energy, since it's
going to run all day on sunny days. These days you can also get
variable speed motors. Mine is from Pentair and does about 3/4 HP
at full speed and 1/16 HP at low speed. The faster you pump
water, the more back-pressure there is that wastes energy. Thus,
when you are not cleaning the pool or doing some heavy cleanup,
it will be much better to run the motor slowly, and for longer.
Drain
It is important to take the water to be heated from the BOTTOM
drain, since that is where the coldest water will be, and your
just-warmed water will float to the top. My bottom drain was
abandoned when the pool was rebuilt, so we use the pool cleaner,
a "Kreepy-Krauly", to pull the water from the bottom.
This is the only acceptable unit for pebble-textured pools, if
you have smooth plaster you can use something else. It slowly
cleans the pool with the motor on low power. Once I do the season
opening and pull out the big branches, the pool just keeps itself
clean for the rest of the summer. We replace the rubber skirt and
ears on that Kreepy-Krauly every year, that ends up costing about
$100.
Sanitization
I got a big canister that holds 30 chlorine tablets and runs the
pump water through them slowly whenever the pump is on. I can set
that up and leave it alone for a month.
PH
PH and so on are mostly done at season opening, once you have the
chemical balance right you just test it every week or so. The
rain will tend to make the water acid, you have to buffer it so
that it doesn't dissolve your plaster.
Algae
I used to use a copper additive for algae. Now that there are
vapors of suspicion that unbound copper is implicated in
Alzheimers disease, I am holding off on that. In general running
the filter a lot gets rid of the nutrients that algae needs, on
occassion a chlorine shock or some chemical additive are
necessary to handle a bad case.
Murkiness
Leslie's has a "clarifier" solution that handles
murkiness very well. I only need it when I open the pool for the
season.
Plumbing
PVC pipe is like lego for grownups. Very cheap and easy to build
with, and it holds 200 PSI when you are done. Pay attention to
cleaning parts to be attached, use primer, make sure glue covers
all surfaces that will be welded together, keep the joint still
while it's curing. Do not leave unused PVC in the sun, UV
makes it brittle. Paint installed PVC that would be sun-exposed
black so that UV won't make it brittle. Use 2 inch pipe to
carry water, bigger pipe has less resistance.
You forgot a critical component to this story. How big is your pool, in gallons? What is the surface area of the pool and how deep is it?
We once considered this at my father's house in Florida. However, the pool ranged from 3 to 9 feet deep and was over 55,000 gallons. The solar tech said "yeah, if you cover not only your entire roof, but the roofs of the houses on either side of you it might work".
I did mention surface area. It's nice to be able to have as much panel as the pool surface area, and I set 3/4 as the minimum practical value. That sounds like a 50-foot diameter, at least. An olympic pool is bigger!
Sometimes you can put panels on the ground. I've seen a very nice hillside around Livermore where the steep-grade portion of a hillside got panels.
Thank you first for the info- I want to do something like this someday, though with my finances it'll as likely end up the community pool at the Granite, OR campus of The Oregon Project as something private.
It seems to me that if you roofed in the pool, and supported the roof with PVC pipes, you could probably design a system where you pumped water up to the peak, let it flow down sandwitched between a glass pane and something colored black, then it flows down other supports and back into the pool.....that way you'd have *all* the pool area (and then some) covered with solar panels, and a nice self-contained system to boot.
If you also included one or two electricity-generating panels for small, DC electric pumps, you might even get the whole thing to run off of solar whenever the sun shines....
After all, there has to be an efficiency loss in converting solar energy in two steps.
I'm fairly sure that my old school slowly pumped (and filtered) the water into a shallow puddle, which then flowed back into the pool. Paint this area black, and the heat should transfer fairly well.
Naturally, moving the water around is expensive, but you've got to get the water near the heating element in any case!
My memory is extremely imperfect here. I didn't see the heat tranfer, for it was on the roof, and I was simplifying; possibly, the "puddle" was covered, or even a "reverse radiator"; that is, winding pipes. Perhaps it was the best technology then, but this wouldn't be the case now?
You're right that panels would beat evaporation, but I'd expect that there's some way to transfer the sun's energy directly, as heat.
On that subject, a cover on the pool when not in use does wonders for both of these. It almost eliminates evaporation, which reduces water usage. Since evaporation is the major heat loss mechanism for a pool simply putting a cover on will raise the pool temperature by around 8 degrees centigrade (under my local conditions in Sydney, AU). A cover also reduces dust in the pool and the reduced light intensity in the pool inhibits algae.
If your pool goes cloudy don't immediately reach for a flocculation agent. Instead consider dropping the pH with acid. As the pH goes up, the carbonate can come out of solution causing cloudiness. Flocculant is sometime treating the symptom, not the cause. Left to it's own devices a pool will eventually reach chemical equilibrium with atmospheric CO2 and the pH will go to about 8.2.
One of my long term projects has been a mathematical model of the chemical dynamics of my pool. It's incomplete, but has so far yielded the above pH insight. One day I'll get around to cleaning it up and releasing it (GPL?) The eventual aim is to build it into a predictive controller for my pool chemistry.
Our school pool used solar water heating, although it was as simple as using black PVC pipes that where mounted on top of a black panel. The water was pumped through the setup. Worked pretty well although it wasn't used in the middle of winter.
Has anyone here experimented with permanent magnet DC motors for their pool pumps? The efficiency of the typical single phase motor is terrible. One option might be to use a high efficiency DC drive instead?
Has anyone examined the efficiency of a typical pool pump impeller? I've seen numbers ranging from 10% to 95% for typical pumps. Total efficiency is (motor efficiency)*(pump efficiency). Can it be improved? My suspicion is that the efficiency of a typical pool pump/motor combination is a single digit when expressed as a percentage.
Also in the quest for energy efficiency it might be worth looking at the type of filter being used. One of my friends replaced the sand in his filter with zeolite. The operating pressure dropped by 10% for a given flow (same or better filtration quality). Presumably that translates into a 10% reduction in power consumed by the filter pump (power = pressure * volume/time ?). The difference in cost between sand and zeolite isn't huge.
This looks pretty good to me. I have a friend (with not a large pool) who rolled black contour pipe on a suitably slanting platform facing the summer sun's track. This was rolled in a large spiral with a diameter of about 10 - 12ft the diameter of the contour pipe would have been 1 inch (or less) the water from the pool was circulated slowly through this pipe and heated his pool quite nicely. I forget the temperatures he mentioned but this cheap system did work.
Solar Heating your Swimming Pool
11 years ago, I bought a house with an in-ground swimming pool, something of a rarity in chilly Berkeley but it was 40 years old. I don't like cold pools, and decided to put in solar heating panels. It took some time, but I worked out how to operate the heating/filter system at a very low energy cost. I wrote a brain-dump yesterday for someone who just got a house with a pool, and then decided to put it online, rather than lose the information.
Safety
Unfortunately, this starts with a difficult topic. Before you start work on your pool, please do a google search for "pool evisceration" and read the references. A number of children have been horribly injured by innocent-looking plumbing.
In current pool construction, evisceration is avoided by having any pipe with suction on it be connected to more than one drain, so that suction does not build up on one drain.
Making sure a current pool is as safe as it can be from evisceration hazards
1. Make sure the skimmer bucket, where the basket that holds things the skimmer catches goes, has a working cap on top of it. You might want to screw it down so that curious kids can't pick it up, the last one I bought came with screws. One of the bad injuries was from a baby sitting down in the skimmer bucket. Modern skimmer buckets have a second drain built below them in the pool wall so that there can not be suction buildup. Make sure that's not blocked.
2. Make sure the bottom drain has a grate screwed down on to it.
3. If there is an outlet for a pool vaccumm, fit a spring-loaded cap on to it.
Stores
Leslie's pool supply is the only good local store. Use web/mail order to get everything else.
Water table
Draining a pool isn't good for it. If the water table is high as in the winter, it can float the pool right out of the ground. Sometimes you can get the thing back where it was, but you'll lose the plumbing, including that hard-to-replace bottom drain pipe. It can also cause the plaster to start popping off the base of the pool, which will make it leak. I live in the hills and the water is only 7 feet down in the middle of summer. I have not drained my pool since a pebble-tek replastering 7 years ago. It's easy to keep clean without ever draining it, and having a diver come from a leak-detection company and do any underwater repairs you need is less expensive than I would have expected.
Type of panel
There are a number of different kinds of panel that you can put on your roof. Most these days are plastic of some kind. The panels I'm using are made of aluminum and copper, and I can't get any more. The cheapest kind come in a roll of about 20 feet by 4 feet and are just rolled out onto the roof. Between thermal expansion and wind, they are going to chafe the life out of your roof shingles. More practical units come in solid rectangular panels that connect end-to-end. Cover as much of the sun-facing roof as you can. Since heat is the free part of this energy equation, you will save the most electricity with more panels, and a shorter run-time. You will also get a longer season in which you can heat the pool with more panels. About 3/4 of your pool surface area is a practical minimum size to be making a significant difference in the pool temperature. A web search will find various brands, plan on doing this by mail-order, as it's hard to find the parts otherwise. My panels can get the pool up to body temperature for two to three months in the summer, here in Berkeley's fog-belt, on the shady side of the hills. Most people will have a longer season. Today the system is running and water coming out of the panels is about 79 degrees, probably 10 degrees above air temperature.
Roof mounting
I built a frame for my panels using redwood blocks bolted into the roof studs and ground-contact-rated 2x4s running between the blocks. This holds them several inches off of the roof. Some plastic panels come with stainless steel mounting hardware that holds them off the roof. Prosolar makes beautiful hardware for clay tile roofs, foam roofs, etc., but it's pricey. They actually made my panels, and have either exited that business or just refuse to ship them anywhere.
Air-relief valve
Panels come with an air-relief and vaccumm breaker valve. This removes air from the system and keeps it from developing a syphon. The most important thing it does is drain the panel reliably for those Northerners who have freezing weather. But it is a tremendous energy waster for us, because it breaks the syphon that actually saves us energy in pumping water up to the roof and back. Block off the air relief valve and you will be able to use the low setting of a two-speed motor to pump through the panel. Leave it open and you'll need the high-speed setting. The air in the system just comes out the pool jets, it doesn't get stuck anywhere. Use a manual valve to make sure the panel is drained when you close the system for the winter. If I lived in a place where frost is less predictable, I'd use an electric valve for air relief, and have it shut when the motor is on low speed and open otherwise. You will not close the pump for the winter, in a really cold winter you will circulate the water to keep the pool from icing over. Ice is bad for it. Yes, it really does ice over in the Berkeley hills some years.
Cover
Use a solar pool cover to conserve that heat and keep the mosquito larvae out. They are made of bubble-wrap with some ultraviolet-resistance added. UV and chlorine rot them in 2 years or so. Leslies pool supply has nice cut-to-shape ones with reels.
Controller
The controller turns on the system when it can heat the pool and turns it off before it starts cooling the pool. It uses two thermistors, and turns on the system when one thermistor is hotter than the other, and allows you to set a maximum temperature. If you live in Arizona, it also allows you to set the panel to go on at night and cool off the pool. Mine is from Goldline controls. It comes with instructions that expect you to run the filter on a timer all day, and then have the controller just turn the valve to the heating panel on and off. This might have been a good idea 15 years ago when electricity was cheaper. To be able to turn the motor on and off with the controller, you need a controller that puts a thermistor in the panel and one in the pool.
Motor
A two-speed motor is essential to save energy, since it's going to run all day on sunny days. These days you can also get variable speed motors. Mine is from Pentair and does about 3/4 HP at full speed and 1/16 HP at low speed. The faster you pump water, the more back-pressure there is that wastes energy. Thus, when you are not cleaning the pool or doing some heavy cleanup, it will be much better to run the motor slowly, and for longer.
Drain
It is important to take the water to be heated from the BOTTOM drain, since that is where the coldest water will be, and your just-warmed water will float to the top. My bottom drain was abandoned when the pool was rebuilt, so we use the pool cleaner, a "Kreepy-Krauly", to pull the water from the bottom. This is the only acceptable unit for pebble-textured pools, if you have smooth plaster you can use something else. It slowly cleans the pool with the motor on low power. Once I do the season opening and pull out the big branches, the pool just keeps itself clean for the rest of the summer. We replace the rubber skirt and ears on that Kreepy-Krauly every year, that ends up costing about $100.
Sanitization
I got a big canister that holds 30 chlorine tablets and runs the pump water through them slowly whenever the pump is on. I can set that up and leave it alone for a month.
PH
PH and so on are mostly done at season opening, once you have the chemical balance right you just test it every week or so. The rain will tend to make the water acid, you have to buffer it so that it doesn't dissolve your plaster.
Algae
I used to use a copper additive for algae. Now that there are vapors of suspicion that unbound copper is implicated in Alzheimers disease, I am holding off on that. In general running the filter a lot gets rid of the nutrients that algae needs, on occassion a chlorine shock or some chemical additive are necessary to handle a bad case.
Murkiness
Leslie's has a "clarifier" solution that handles murkiness very well. I only need it when I open the pool for the season.
Plumbing
PVC pipe is like lego for grownups. Very cheap and easy to build with, and it holds 200 PSI when you are done. Pay attention to cleaning parts to be attached, use primer, make sure glue covers all surfaces that will be welded together, keep the joint still while it's curing. Do not leave unused PVC in the sun, UV makes it brittle. Paint installed PVC that would be sun-exposed black so that UV won't make it brittle. Use 2 inch pipe to carry water, bigger pipe has less resistance.