Paranoia

mcrbids

Wed Jan 02 17:19:29 -0800 2008

manage

Just because the video card *can* be used for DRM traffic doesn't mean it *has* to be used with only DRM traffic. It's like a TCP connection - you can send stuff "in the clear" or you can encrypt it a la SSL.

DRM is Microsoft angling for the movie industry to adopt 100% MS products for distributing movie content. They want to be the itunes store, not Apple, and they are willing to go to great lengths to get there, including the release of the single most disappointing product release of 2007.

Will it work? Doesn't look like it. Yay Microsoft!

Paranoia

phred14

Wed Jan 02 18:50:29 -0800 2008

manage

The thing I keep coming back to about Vista is that it is something fundamentally new under the Sun...

It's the first major Operating System where failure was a significant and desired goal.

With any/every other OS, we've been struggling for decades to make them work, and by all accounts we still haven't fully succeeded.  So into this environment, where success has not yet been adequately achieved, Vista includes failure as a target.  But even worse than failure, highly selective failure.  Vista is supposed to work most of the time, fail some of the time, and be able to discriminate when to do one vs the other.

Tell me the chances of that working on the first release - from anyone.

DR. Who?

elfy

Wed Jan 02 21:01:07 -0800 2008

manage

As long as there is a speaker making a sound, I can record it.  If there is a screen with an image, I can record it.


Microsoft is happy to lock folks into something that reflects Sony's limited thinking; that the consumer wont notice what they are being fed (or worse, paying for).

I record music, I write stores or do other things.  Sure, if I made a CD I would like to get paid for it, but if folks dont know what it is, how can I make a dime off it? (not that its worth even that, heh)

If I am paying for something, can I use it with some smarts, or be trusted to?  The big companies dont want to act that way.  Why can't I use something at home or when I am out and about and not have restrictions?


On top of all that, the genie is out of the bottle now and has been for many years, music companies specifically are really trying to close the barn door long after the horses have run out (and then the barn has caught fire on them, oops).

The Net is just a giant hard drive, so any and all things they complain about will be there forever - hidden in private sites here and there if need be, or folks will trade the old fashioned way through the post. Petabytes or even Exobytes of just music is out there....cant get that one back in the box!


As far as WHY Microsoft does things, well...money. They can sell this trusted computing platform to any company with giant media reserves and then everyone can feel warm and safe that their copy written material is safe.  Thats all bull dust, though.

To me, when I saw that any modern (in the last dozen years or so) computer could get online so easily, I understood that any I.P. address could potentially have as much power as any Broadcast network (CBS, ABC, BBC, what have you).  Anyone can send out a rather potent message now, and promote themselves.  And distribute their work, too.  With such little effort.

Is it any wonder then, that some companies fear what we have now?

An artist can make, edit, produce and sell all from the same spot.  They can access any previously recorded material as long as they search enough to find it online.

If they want to promote themselves, get a band together and tough it out touring, they can do that too.

Why would any musician with any brain in his head want to deal with any recording industry jerks?

Sure, I am mostly talking about music, but I think a lot of this applies to most anyone : musician, writer, actor, videographer, photographer.

And if I remember correctly, when the player piano came along, there was a big row about it because it was easy to copy the rolls, so it was hard to keep an individual owner's rights.  Go figure.

DR. Who?

Michael Smith

Wed Jan 02 21:17:09 -0800 2008

manage

As long as there is a speaker making a sound, I can record it.  If there is a screen with an image, I can record it.

Not if all the sound and video recorders on the market recognise watermarks in the analog signal and refuse to function.

I believe most or all colour photocopiers are hard coded not to copy many banknotes. Of course we still have soldering irons. But there is a limit to the ROI for homebrew hardware.

DR. Who?

elfy

Wed Jan 02 21:22:56 -0800 2008

manage

ok, that is true regarding newer technologies; I meant things like 2 track reel to reel tape as one example of going from speaker to recording medium.  Yes I have 2 reel to reels, they are actually SONY models.

I am quick to think of very old school tech applications to modern DRM BS...I should have said that, so my apologies :-).

DRM – a big win for Microsoft

Mathinker

Wed Jan 02 22:13:19 -0800 2008

manage

> Microsoft is the company, which profits most from the Digital Rights Management.

What about all the companies, like Aladdin, who more or less only sell DRM schemes?

I'd guess that on a relative basis, those companies would beat out MS.

DRM – a big win for Microsoft

Roy Schestowitz

Wed Jan 02 23:44:40 -0800 2008

manage

Microsoft has openly told Forbes Magazine that it likes DRM.

DRM – a big win for Microsoft

Procrastinator

Thu Jan 03 04:13:27 -0800 2008

manage

Not to mention they need to sustain the myth of a workable copyright system so the federal goons will keep protecting their anti-competitive advantage over the rest of the industry. (and Free software in particular, since it doesn't use goons)