Pulling, down at the Devonport

Sat Oct 11 03:57:00 -0700 2008
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Many years ago, I was stood at the bar of what used to be the Devonport pub, idly chatting to the two girls next to me, what followed was basically what is happening now with the stock markets.

So there we are, I'm not chatting up, just making idle conversation, periodically someone says "excuse me" and stands between us to order some drinks.

Then this guy takes the place, and starts doing the hard sell (of himself) on these two girls, and every time they look at me (we had been having a conversation, I forget about what) matey starts doing his Mr Cool.

After a few minutes it starts working, the girls are simpering and Mr Cool is feeling is oats.

Me? I could have cared less, really, until Mr Cool did something very silly, he sneered at me to my face, and the girls simpered.

Now normally I'm a pretty placid bloke, I'm street wise enough to read the signs and not be in a pub when a fight breaks out, and smart enough to say "see you later" to people who aren't. But sometimes, well sometimes we all like a bit of fun.

So instead of doing what I was going to do, which having finished my pint was leave, I call Benny (the owner) over and order another one, but I say it in a "and der uzi nine millimeeta" tone of voice.

Benny just lifts his eyebrow and smirks, he got the message, Mr Cool and the girls look at me to.

So I turn to matey and say "Turn your pockets out on the bar." and start doing the same myself.

He is acting all confused and uncertain, so I give him some attitude and ensure compliance.

OK girls, we are about to do a little experiment, and this experiment is about image and bullshit, and here I am in jeans and a shirt, and here is matey in designer jeans and a trendy tee shirt with gel in his hair.

We already know matey here is rude, he just butts in, and I don't say anything and you two don't say anything, and then he starts laying his line of bullshit down and you two start buying it.

Benny is smiling, several conversations around us have stopped.

"What bullshit?" says matey.

"Your bullshit" I tell him, everything you said was bullshit, in fact everything you are is bullshit, so lets look at what we have on the bar.

We'll start with the keys, I drove here in a morris van, what did you drive here in?

He smirks, XR3i, is it your car? I ask him, Yes he says, right I say, lets go outside and burn both of them.

WHAT!!! Why not I say, it is after all YOUR car like you said innit, no skin off my nose, I'll just use another car from home.

So it ain't actually his car, it is the banks car, and he has made 3 payments on it.

So you're going to show these two girls a good time in your bank managers car huh?

Benny is now chuckling, all other conversation has ceased, even the jukebox has been turned off.

I pick up his wallet and empty it on the bar, fifteen quid and some change, "Cheap date huh, you girls going to put out for fish and chips."

Now do the same to my wallet, I tell him.

There is a couple of hundred in there.

OK I say, since you don't want to burn the car, how about we burn this?

Nooooo

Why not, after all you're only going to be down fifteen quid and some change that won't burn anyway, where I'll be down 200 quid.

mumble

what

I need to put petrol in the car to get home

oh dear, and where is home?

home is a shared flat, so you can't actually offer these girls a private home to relax in then, is it worth rubbing salt in the wound by saying I own a 7 bedroom house (I did back then) with enough cash in the deposit account to pay the mortgage off if it wasn't for the tax breaks.

"So there you go, that's what you are, total bullshit, and as for you girls, I wasn't trying to chat you up, but you see what you got, compared to what you could have got, so the next time you have a crap date you know who to blame, yourself."

raucous cheering, I pick up my stuff, nod to benny and go home.

What the hell has this sorry tale got to do with the stock markets.

Absolutely everything.

Stock markets and money markets are, we are always being told, about CONFIDENCE, but they aren't, unless you use that word the way it is used when you say "confidence trickster", because what these things really are all about is IMAGE.

If you can maintain the right image, your stuff sells, but image is a precious thing, and once the chip and pin machines go down and disconnect all the Mr Cool's from their overdraft facilties, suddenly it is a lot harder to act like money is falling out of your ass, and the only guy who can actually buy a drink is the guy with cash money in his pocket.

Yeah Jimmy, you're really cool, but Pugsley has money.

Back in the politically incorrect days when this Devonport incident happened, we could tell jokes about "pass the parcel in an irish pub" eg the parcel was a ticking IRA bomb.

As long as the music kept playing and the bomb kept ticking the parcel moved at a frenetic pace, but despite this furious industry nothing is actually being made, and there is no confidence in it.

When the music stops and one person is left holding the parcel, nobody wants to sit next to you, and again, it isn't because of a lack of "confidence" in you.

Back in the Devonport Mr Cool had plenty of "confidence" in himself, and it worked, just as it usually worked for him, hence his arrogant self confidence, but confidence is like a balloon or virginity, one prick and it is gone.

In Mr Cool's place I was the prick, but it doesn't matter who was right and wrong, who was an asshole and who wasn't, the fact is Mr Cool could not have pulled in that pub if his life depended on it after I pricked his confidence.

Just like pass the parcel in the irish pub, once the music stops and your holding the parcel and in the silence can suddenly hear it ticking, nothing is going to induce you to want to hold that parcel again.

The image of Mr Cool took a beating, just as the image of the parcel takes a beating as soon as you hear it ticking.

Mr Cool could actually have been a decent bloke if he dropped the bullshit, and the ticking parcel could contain a very nice alarm clock and not a bomb, but none of that matters once the image is tarnished.

This is what we have now in the markets.

The fact is that you can't hand a buch of cash to Mr Cool or to the pass the parcel contestants and make them suddenly change their image of what is going down.

The fact is we are hardwired to want to see some blood on the floor, only then can we say to ourselves that that potential threat has blown up in someone's face. pat ourselves down and find no limbs missing, and say "well, we dodged that one, trebles all around!"

A few major banks here and there going to the wall, and a few Mr Cool "Masters of the Universe" in the city sloping off to the Caymans doesn't count as blood on the floor.

"confidence" in the markets isn't going to "return" until the things that called it into question have blown up in someone's (preferably someone else's) face.

The ticking parcel isn't sub-prime 125% interest only mortgages, the ticking parcel is the pub full of Mr Cools when the chip and pin tills go down, only cash money is going to buy a beer.

Being "worth" 50k doesn't mean jack shit if you don't have the cash in your pocket to buy a beer.

The "market" isn't going to recover until it sees beers being bought for cash and dancing by the jukebox, and Mr Cool isn't going to be the one to start that ball rolling.

THE MORAL OF THIS STORY.

The moral is that while we all want to blame the Masters of the Universe, or quote Woody Allen (a stockbroker is someone who invests your money until it is all gone) the fact is that the pubs and streets are full of Mr Cools, the world & their dog are living it large and living a lie.

I don't do drugs, drug users should be whipped at the stake and then burnt. Lights a cigarette, drinks a beer, pops a valium.

What do you mean? These are drugs, THESE ARE LEGAL!!!!

It is this whole world of "that which I do not do" and I will redefine what I do as far as necessary to ensure that it does not conflict with that which I do not do.

Mr Cool didn't deserve what I did to him, I was an asshole, but people are quite happy to watch one person being an asshole to another person. It is often entertaining for them.

Nowadays everyone is basically Mr Cool, and the asshole is someone like JP Morgan saying "I will buy you at 5 cents a share, out of spare change I find down the back of my sofa and belly button fluff"

But it still sin't going to end until there is blood on the floor, enough blood so that those remaining standing can convince themselves that it is over and they have dodged the bullet.

And that means lots and lots of Mr Cools are going to have the blood spilled on every high street before anyone from the masters of the universe comes back from the Caymans.

It's the herd at work.

It knows the Lions are still out there, stalking.

That laughing you hear is the asshole Hyenas, like me.

Pulling, down at the Devonport
Sat Oct 11 07:30:25 -0700 2008
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Sigh, yeah, largely correct.  We'll see if JP Morgan doesn't keel over; after all Lehman's bonds just auctioned of for less than 0.10 on the notional dollar.  The smart money was out of the market a year ago.  The herd-generators like what's-his-name Cramer (who embodies much, if not all, that all I dislike about the "investment world") only told his slobbering, knuckle-dragging, minions to get out on Monday.

Dealing with leverage is about being able to correctly price your positions in the market.  On a really, really good day, in a really, really stable market, you might convince me that you've got a moderately exotic derivative priced to 1% of it's real value.  This is speaking (well, hoisting a pint and BS-ing as he appeals to qualifications :) ) as a Ph.D. in derivatives pricing with a fair bit of trading experience.  The real value depends on knowing how volatile it's going to be, how well you can hedge it, all those kinds of  forecasting and operational things that get you into trouble.

What also matters is correlation.  If your risks are uncorrelated then your 1% errors tend to cancel out.  Correlation is hard to estimate, nigh impossible to model.  What happens to an institution that is 100:1 leveraged and correlations go high? You're capital doesn't cover your pricing error.

So what happened earlier this year, for those watching, is that certain correlations shot up to high (absolute) values.  Hedge funds trading that took a bath.  Smart money was all moving out before the dumb money panicked.

Ask a CDO guy how he hedges his portfolio.  Always an interesting conversation.

So what to do?  I tend to agree with the folks saying re-capitalize then re-regulate the banks, at least the ones whose obligations to depositors are covered by the tax payer, and re-inflate the system.  Time for government to run a deficit for 2-3 years.  Let's build a few nuclear plants, a couple of subways, some infrastructure to keep people busy while the core of the entrepreneurial system sputters back to life.

This too shall pass...

P.S. Zogger, GuyFawkes, if I'm ever in your part of the world the pints are on me.

Pulling, down at the Devonport
Sat Oct 11 07:33:32 -0700 2008
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P.P.S. "part" implicitly plural, obviously. :)

Pulling, down at the Devonport
Sat Oct 11 08:31:24 -0700 2008
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I'm wondering about this business of "re-capitalizing the banks", since the money in the kitty is small compared to need some banks will live and many will be left to die.  This means as side effect some regions or industries get more love than others, and over here the people being put in charge of that have a "Wall St." bias, not one for The People.

Pulling, down at the Devonport
Sat Oct 11 09:46:31 -0700 2008
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The problem is that well-behaved institutions are being pulled in, often by association, occasionally by individuals.  For example, I'm ticked off that UBS got into CDO's, I know the guy who got that ball rolling there; I'd love to get the whole story some time.

Main St. needs their deposits guaranteed, and that means vouching for the behaviour of the banks in question, and that means solid regulation.  That also means a boring, steady earning business. Oh well.  The kitty probably is big enough to re-capitalize the well behaved institutions.

I would push the button

Sat Oct 11 09:56:03 -0700 2008
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Yet another example how State intervention leads to the mega-mega corps that everyone loves to hate.

It was in this spirit that the classical liberal Leonard E. Read, advocating immediate and total abolition of price and wage controls after World War II, declared in a speech, "If there were a button on this rostrum, the pressing of which would release all wage and price controls instanta­neously, I would put my finger on it and push!"

The only way out is to stop building the parcels in the first place and not recycling whatever is left of the last one when the bomb goes off.

I would push the button
Sat Oct 11 18:00:36 -0700 2008
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Fine, but if you want deposit insurance then you need rules by which the companies are going to behave.  If the public is on the hook for deposit guarantees then the public gets to say how such a guaranteed institution is run, at least in part.

I would push the button
Sat Oct 11 18:07:09 -0700 2008
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Wouldn't really need deposit insurance if your deposits were backed by, umm...deposits.

Funny how no private entity will touch 'deposit insurance' so it has to be provided by putting the barrel of a gun to the collective head.

Pulling, down at the Devonport
Mon Oct 13 09:46:01 -0700 2008
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Time for government to run a deficit for 2-3 years.  Let's build a few nuclear plants, a couple of subways, some infrastructure to keep people busy while the core of the entrepreneurial system sputters back to life.

Here's what bugs me about that- the government has already been running at a deficit for the past 8 years.  It hasn't done a lick of good.

What makes anybody think MORE deficit spending is the answer to a problem of too much deficit spending?

Yeah, there will be blood

Sat Oct 11 11:06:23 -0700 2008
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So... devalue the currency? Print new dollars? Backed by gold?

Yeah, there will be blood
Sat Oct 11 15:56:55 -0700 2008
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It doesn't really matter who gets the 'helicopter drop' money, in theory at least, so it shouldn't matter to the Powers That Be if the current holders of gold or the failing banks get the gifted money.

Back the outstanding currency by the amount of gold that is currently held by the central banks and you don't have to devalue the currency. Let silver and other base metals float freely to take up the slack so you don't have to trade in atoms of gold and eventually everything will even out.

It doesn't have to be the end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine).

Yeah, there will be blood
Sat Oct 11 18:04:11 -0700 2008
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The money wasn't worth anything anyway, the trillions in paper printed with "AAA Mortgage" on it can't be backed by payments.  So, yes, time to re-inflate, IMHO.

If you want gold, buy gold.  The slow devaluation of the currency by inflation should (ideally, in theory, on average, YMMV) be matched by interest rates on deposits.  If you want a note in hand, you'll pay either interest or inflation, the difference is whether you pay more bits of paper back to the bank or need more bits of paper to buy stuff.

bars, fates, chances, etc.

Sat Oct 11 16:16:06 -0700 2008
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First off, I think the social dynamics of a good bar are a great topic. A good pub, tied-house, wine-bar, or full bar in the right place and time is a great democratizer. Everyone local gets to meet everyone local, eventually, and the cooperative effort is a vibe that facilitates and lubricates those meetings. They are a space unto themselves. It's weird. (Weird as in nicely weird.)

A thing we get a lot of around here, being a college town, are young people just passing through town who have no clue of the difference between the bar they see on tv or in movies and the infinitely less generic situation they just walked into. So, we get to see a lot of them trying to figure out what attitude, exactly, to bring when they attempt to belly up to the crowded bar to place an order and maybe or maybe not have an in with the hot guy or girl there.

Now, they aren't all Mr. Cools, by a long shot. So, I figure I'll add some balance talking about cases where you don't have to become the asshole before mentioning some where you do.

We get all these newly minted drinkers -- kids barely legal. They stumble in, attracted by reputation of the place, with 3-4 beta males in tow. Ok, I guess to a limited extent they are Mr. Cool wannabe's, in part -- but they are easily dissuaded.

A neat trick of one my favorite places: The place is a tied house. Arguably, accounts vary, the first tied house in the modern U.S. As a consequence, while the list of available brews is clearly and unambiguously displayed, none of them have a familiar brand name. The only way to come up with an order, if you are new to the place, is to guess randomly (perhaps but not usually with some hints from stopping to read the printed menu cards) or to ask. So, the maybe-I-wanna-be Mr. Cool guy dragged his 3-4 friends here, they're intimidated by the scene at the bar, and their alpha says "hang tight guys, i'll go get us a pitcher". He sucks up his courage, tries to remember what would be a sophisticated order, spots his opening at the bar -- grabs the bartender's attention a bit ungracefully and says "uh... gimme a pitcher of guiness and four glasses."

"We don't sell guinness."

"Oh. Hmm. Bass ale?"

[pointing to the placards of what's currently on tap] "Those are our beers."

Now if the young person is presenting themselves all nicely there will be lots of spontaneously coming help at this juncture. "Oh, you like guinness? Hmm... well, the tap on nitro isn't very guinness-like but I'll bet you'd like Christian's Last Stand only, you can't get it by the pitcher." And maybe the bartender will offer "Here, try some samples."

Frankly, we butch the kids around a bit what with sudden silences around the bar and a lot of miming and we do that cause, heck, a majority of them "tune in" and we've done a public service and their and our enjoyment of the place is enhanced by the resulting attitudes, all around. It's interesting because my sense (and recollection of my own experience) is that when you're new to that environment it's initially just overstimulating to the point of being stupifying. It's a complex (other than once you get it, very simple) social scene. It's scary. It's fun to, now and again, guide the new patrons down a decent path to take.

Sometimes you get some real -- well, you say Mr. Cools but I say, borrowing a coinage from some others -- real asshats. As in people who think their most effective strategy is to adorn their head by shoving it up an ass, their own or someone else's. And worse, you sometimes get older masochists who never figured out that they could, or how to escape being received as an asshat and thus have adopted a life strategy of embracing and extending the asshat role. As if that were "clever and charming" or something.

But, before I get to them there's the regulars and, not to tell tales too badly out of school but, random selection it's like Oh, there's the N+1 contracters at one end of the bar, there's that interesting guy who reports for the local paper, over yonder the very hot middle-aged office-worker gal whose always on the lookout for a stable "friend with benefits" but only on mutually wise terms and she sees my wedding ring perfectly well. And there, behind the bar serving up spirits, my spiritual adviser for the day who, literally, is just completing his divinity degree and will be leaving next month since he got appointed to a congregation pretty far away. Oh, boy, in walks the round-about 70-something former heavyweight boxer who thinks his main claim to fame is the time he palled around with Muhammaed Ali at the bar he used to own and run but who I think still caries a lot of weight for his pretty decent pecks and my clear sense that I at least have no care to get in his way. There are some semi-regulars (or as I like to say, "irregulars") in the band just back from this or that damn tour and hanging out to support their bartender, tour-accompanying smart chick. The new General Manager who can't get over how great it is that the job stumbled into his lap and responds by keeping the brass polished, cleaning up old neglected bits, and developing new resale customers for the in-house brews in part by -- GASP! -- deciding to carry "guest brews" here in the temple. (No, that doesn't mean we've got guinness now.) Mingled among the tables are students, sure, but also academic departments having an offsite meeting or local entrepreneurs or half the fire department from a local station. An owner's kid busses tables for part of the summer (no, he's not allowed to so much as touch a glass of alcohol, by law): he too gets some starting sense of how things work and gets a little bit of Mr. Cool wannabe discouraged out of him.

But serious asshats do happen. Not to one up you but just to tell a story we had one who tried to impress the chick in question by -- now, no, lemme set the stage. Twas a slow hour, mostly. Almost entirely regulars who seek out the slow hours and, then, the asshat. Bartender was off taking a dump or something and asshat decides to try to impress the nice (rather butch) lady at the bar by giving in to his impatience, reaching around the taps, and pouring his own second pint.

I was wussy. I don't think I said more than a vague indication of "you ought not do that" but I help set up what unfolded by laughing *at* him in a way he took to be laughing *with* him. The lovely lady had her fun. Loud as she could: "HEY! KNOCK IT OFF!" Asshat freezes and looks like his trousers just gained some weight. "WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING? I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE WHO STEAL FROM MY FRIENDS OR PLACE THEIR BUSINESS IN JEAPORDY."

I can't swear he peed his pants but if you came away with the sense that that's the gist I wouldn't try to dissuade you.

Oh, right: hyenas.... that's what I wanted to get to.

Don't overplay it. You need those asshats just as much as the rest of us does. Yeah, they need attitude adjustment. Yeah, they should be more scared. Yeah, they need to know that you know more than they do.

But... don't underestimate the value of fixing them rather than beating them back. Or something like that.

-t

Pulling, down at the Devonport
Fri Oct 17 12:57:26 -0700 2008
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I totally see another moral to this story, you can be right in every aspect and still go home alone.

Quite frankly, even though you had valid points, the manner in which you conveyed that point was only effective on one level.  I'd bet the main point everyone at that bar got was that you could've handled the manner with much more grace and elogance and gotten the girls.

Pulling, down at the Devonport
Fri Oct 17 14:58:22 -0700 2008
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I may have "gone home" alone, but I didn't go home to an empty bed.

Not trying to be funny, cos I know it ain't so for everyone by a long chalk, but I've never understood the apparent difficulty many men have in getting laid, I can be shy and tongue twisted and all that stuff, but I can't recall ever *trying* to chat a girl up, or not managing to get laid.

Now, long lasting "met at high school" type relationships are a black art, I envy those people, and have no clue how they do it, except by the obvious deduction of not being me.

Getting more opportunities for sex than you can handle is, in my experience, mainly a case of NOT doing or saying something that makes women (who are at least as up for it and into it as any male) make a mark next to you on their personal list of negative traits.

Pulling, down at the Devonport
Mon Oct 20 07:22:57 -0700 2008
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I didn't gather that from they way your wrote the story, it kinda implied you were trying to do a pickup.  I apologize for the inference. 

Getting laid may not be a difficult endeavour, the ability to get laid at will with a variety of women is a skill.

You make a good point about its more about what you don't do that limits the chances with the ladies.  That being said, coming off as a jerk most likely won't improve your chances.